Upon first boot after a fresh installation, there's no network; no way to continue the installation, to say nothing of useability. Running lsmod, I see only 4 modules are loaded, in contrast with the 80 or 90 that are customary. Neither the ath9k family, needed for my wireless radio, nor r8169 for my ethernet device are loaded. These modules are present in /lib/modules. A manual insmod ath9k fails, saying Error: could not load module ath9k: No such file or directory ath9k.ko is plainly present in the customary place. I have, rather hysterically, added insmod lines to /etc/grub2/grub.cfg but these had no effect. Running grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg nearly wiped me out because grub2-mkconfig is braindead concerning UUIDs and rd.luks.uuid values. It put in totally wrong values for F16, resulting in booting the defective F17 no matter what I chose. I was able to reconstruct correct values and can once again boot the old F16 system, but I almost lost the whole thing. This was a fresh install from a USB stick to a new root partition, keeping the old /boot and /home and old /f16 partitions intact. On this netbook all partitions except /boot are encrypted. As in the past, I boot with rhgb removed, noselinux added to boot options, and use multi-user.target to emulate init level 3. I chose XFCE and unchecked Gnome during installation. On first boot I tried to edit the grub kernel line but couldn't. One must now use "simple emacs commands" to do so. I have spent four decades avoiding emacs and becoming good with vi - the STANDARD editor. The reboot, shutdown, halt commands are now guaranteed to hang the system. Only a forced power-off will recover. That's just sad. F17 seems totally hosed and useless. Why are essential modules not being loaded? Does anyone have an idea how to dig out? I'm leaving for a trip in three days and need this netbook to work. -- David A. De Graaf DATIX, Inc. Hendersonville, NC dad@xxxxxxxx www.datix.us "Flint must be an extremely wealthy town: I see that each of you bought two or three seats." -Victor Borge, playing to a half-filled house in Flint, Mich. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org