On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Am 19.05.2012 13:47, schrieb Dave Ihnat: >> Actually, there's a bit of misconception here. Yes, you can find machines >> with marginal configurations that may have the same processor as a Macbook >> Pro that appear to be very much cheaper. >> >> But they have less or slower memory, less capable/slower support chipsets, >> slower/smaller hard drives, less capable video cards, "home" versions >> of Windows (if you go that route), etc. By the time you configure an >> Intel-based machine to meet the same performance specs as an equivalent >> Apple machine, the difference shrinks to a couple of hundred dollars >> or less. THAT is the legitimate "Apple Tax", not the hundreds or >> thousands people claim. > > this may be PARTLY true for a notebook, on the other hand i have naver > seen so many displays or graphics cards die as in macbooks or currently > screens from the iMacs > > but not for a desktop or any professional computer > the machine below: http://www8.hp.com/de/de/products/desktops/product-detail.html?oid=5096737 > > * 4x2 TB Disk as RAID10 > * 16 GB RAM > * Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600 CPU @ 3.40GHz > > 1600 € a year ago > > you will not find any compareable machine from Apple > the iMacs are only toys and the XEON/ECC of a MacPro is not needed > ___________________________ > > 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family DRAM Controller (rev 09) > 00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200/2nd Generation Core Processor Family PCI Express Root Port (rev 09) > 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics > Controller (rev 09) > 00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82579LM Gigabit Network Connection (rev 04) > 00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller #2 (rev 04) > 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04) > 00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 1 (rev b4) > 00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 5 (rev b4) > 00:1c.6 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 7 (rev b4) > 00:1c.7 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family PCI Express Root Port 8 (rev b4) > 00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family USB Enhanced Host Controller #1 (rev 04) > 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev a4) > 00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation Q67 Express Chipset Family LPC Controller (rev 04) > 00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family 6 port SATA AHCI Controller (rev 04) > 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 6 Series/C200 Series Chipset Family SMBus Controller (rev 04) > 01:00.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82574L Gigabit Network Connection > 02:00.0 USB Controller: NEC Corporation uPD720200 USB 3.0 Host Controller (rev 03) > 03:00.0 Network controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR5008 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01) > > > -- > users mailing list > users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org > Good points from both posters above. I guess what has to be factored in is the fact that when you buy an Apple, you are paying for a concept as much as for a computer. The Macbooks with their one-piece aluminium cases have an undeniably (in my view) much more "solid" and robust feel to them than any other (predominantly plastic) laptop on the market. It is definitely a feeling of buying something designed by F.A. Porsche as opposed to something more "mundane", and Apple have marketed it masterfully. I personally can't think of a single laptop that can best a Macbook on the aesthetic front. As for desktops, it should be noted of course that the one-piece iMac is a very different concept than a standard case-monitor desktop. The iMac sells on very much the same principles as the Macbook: solid, minimalistic, beautiful design, reduced clutter, and great user experience. The average end user will probably prioritize that over perfomance. Geeks like me want the figures rather than the looks...but I sure wouĺdn't mind my desktops case to be carved out of a single slate of aluminum. -- Best, Christopher Svanefalk -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
