Re: The death of Hibernate?

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On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 11:01:34PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
> >> you did read the "a lot of services"?
> >> disable them and you are around 8-10 seconds on F16
> > 
> > Then that's not a usable system is it? I'm not talking about the base
> > boot speed but the boot speed with everything running. I have none of the
> > ones you list below running on my system exception httpd and my boot
> > time is 10s of seconds, as I said before.
> 
> well, that exactly is what i mean by "suspend to disk is meaningless"
> the coffe machine takes longer than 10 seconds

I'm sorry, but I haven't a clue what you're getting at here. I'm telling
you that my system takes longer to cold boot than it does to resume from
suspend, which goes against your claim that cold boots are always
faster. They are in fact not since a reboot requires a lot more to occur
than just loading an active image from disk.

> keep in mind we are speeking about normal disks
> 
> * in a few years most typical machines will have SSD
> * the running apps of the sessions are started by the DE

None of this matters since, in my case at least, I'm not talking about
the login process when I say cold boot. Restoring from suspend is faster
than a boot, excluding the login.

> from this moment on suspend is meaningless from the
> point of performance compared to a cold boot and more
> or less a thing of taste

I think this is what others are pointing out regarding your tone. You
keep saying "is meaningless" but fail to realize that it's not. That
_you_ find no meaning does not mean _I_ don't find meaning (as in
usefulness) from such a feature.

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