On Sun, May 06, 2012 at 07:36:38PM -0700, J D wrote: > > > On 5/6/2012 3:58 PM, Phil Dobbin wrote: > >On 06/05/12 22:50, JD wrote: > > > >>Hi All, > >>Without dissing or criticizing gnome3, I must say > >>I have nothing but problems with using it. > >>For example, selecting the Gnome, or the Classic Gnome > >>desktop manager, I can no longer see the desktop in other > >>workspaces that I created, except workspace 1. > >>Viewing the desktop in a window (as compared on the workspace) > >>does not cut it for me... > >>Starting apps always start in workspace 1, even though > >>I select the app from Applications drop down menu in > >>some other workspace. > >>I am unable to change the position of the Applications > >>toolbar to the left vertical position, and the currently > >>running apps toolbar to the right vertical position. > >>I am unable to create new gnome launch icons on the > >>desktop (or at least, I have not figured out how). Right click > >>on desktop has no effect. > >>I am unable to add new icons of apps to the menu bar for quick launch. > >> > >>And finally, on my HW (AMD Athlon64 3200+)) platform, > >>the response time with F16 is so horribly slow, that F14 practically > >>appeared to respond like lightning - albeit I have had much > >>faster response time on older Fedora releases (such as F7 and F8), > >>on this same HW. > >> > >>In short, I think I will have to dump F16, and switch back to > >>F14 or switch to a completely different distro that has not switched to > >>gnome3. > >> > >>Thanx for all the good and the bad times :) > > > > > >Have you tried running in Fallback mode? I find it perfectly > >usable in that mode. > > > >I ran preupgrade today from 15 -> 16 & apart from a twenty minute > >stall at selinux-targeted-policy during the upgrade it went > >without a hitch & 16 is far snappier than 15 & boots a lot > >quicker. > > > >The most surprising thing of all is that the upgrade was carried > >out on an old IBM ThinkPad T42 with 1GB of RAM & in fallback it's > >flying along & I see none of the problems you're describing. > > > >I hope you get it sorted. I did run the KDE Live CD before > >upgrading but decided to stick with Gnome albeit without the > >visual bells & whistles. > > > >Cheers, > > > > Phil... > I had done a fresh install of F16, as the upgrade left my machine in > an unusable state. > I do not recall seeing anything about fallback mode. > > As an update to my post, I found that xfce is much more like Gnome2, albeit > it is still a wee bit too rigid as far as letting the user decide > where the task bar and > the apps launch bar should be located. But all in all, xfce has come > to the rescue :) > > -- > users mailing list > users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org Hi JD, I'm not sure what you mean by "Rigid". On the machine I have XFCE running on, it's setup is nearly identical to GNOME2 (after some tweaks). I set both the top and bottom panels to 24px, and have them both expanded the full width of the screen. The top panel has the "Applications Menu", several application launchers, my network and mixer applets, my clock (I use orage), and a log-out button. The bottom panel has my taskbar, and to the right my workspace switcher. Just tinker around with it, and I'm sure you'll get a setup that is just right for you, and pretty close to whatever config you were used to in GNOME2. Good luck! Jayson -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org