I had the disappearing title bar problem again just now and thought of another thing you might try, referencing the thread I post a link to several weeks ago: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2011-December/411290.html We used to set the default run level to 3 to keep X11 from starting, or use telinit 3 to shut X11 down. I'm not sure how systemctld does that now, but it looks like either the stop or isolate command is what you would use instead of telinit, ... (crud. I'm looking at man systemd.unit and I see something I'd suspected, but hadn't seen before: The syntax is inspired by XDG Desktop Entry Specification[1] .desktop files, which are in turn inspired by Microsoft Windows .ini files. Who turned this guy loose in our source tree? Man, I wish I had enough money to go back and fork Fedora from before he get allowed in. Even just enough money to pay my rent and feed the kids and set up some servers in the other room or something until I got it going. Maybe it is time to bite the bullet and start moving my stuff to Debian, or check out how far Cent has gone down this road.) Anyway, if you don't want to take the time to look up the unit names for X11 services or whatever he's calling that, I think telinit 3 will still work in F16. With X11 down, log in to the account for the user that is having problems, and use startx or the current equivalent, and see if you can start that way. If you can, get a virtual terminal and run xfwm4 --replace & Running that in a virtual console, without X11 running, probably doesn't do much good. Or, if you have xde or gnome installed, try logging in on one of those instead, and run the above command, as a swag. It should reset a number of defaults for you, which should be less brutal than what I outlined below. On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Joel Rees <joel.rees@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 8:06 PM, Jonathan Allen > <jonathan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Joe Zeff said: >>> /home/user/.xsession-errors would be another good place to check. >> >> Here is it - should that tell me how to go forward? The signal 15 is >> when I terminated the xfce session from a root console session. >> >> Jonathan >> +++ >> >> /usr/bin/startxfce4: X server already running on display :0 > > Hmm. > >> ssh-agent is already running; starting gpg-agent without ssh support >> xfdesktop[1438]: starting up >> xfce4-settings-helper: Another instance is already running. Leaving... > > Huh? > >> Initializing tracker-miner-fs... >> Tracker-Message: Setting up monitor for changes to config file:'/home/tabitha/.config/tracker/tracker-miner-fs.cfg' >> Starting log: >> File:'/home/tabitha/.local/share/tracker/tracker-miner-fs.log' >> GNOME_KEYRING_CONTROL=/tmp/keyring-gzQ2UL >> GNOME_KEYRING_CONTROL=/tmp/keyring-gzQ2UL >> SELinux Troubleshooter: Applet requires SELinux be enabled to run. >> Initializing tracker-store... >> ** Message: applet now removed from the notification area >> Tracker-Message: Setting up monitor for changes to config file:'/home/tabitha/.config/tracker/tracker-store.cfg' >> abrt-applet: glib < 2.31 - init threading >> Tracker-Message: Setting up monitor for changes to config file:'/home/tabitha/.config/tracker/tracker-store.cfg' >> Starting log: >> File:'/home/tabitha/.local/share/tracker/tracker-store.log' >> GNOME_KEYRING_CONTROL=/tmp/keyring-gzQ2UL >> GPG_AGENT_INFO=/tmp/keyring-gzQ2UL/gpg:0:1 >> >> (tracker-store:1541): Tracker-CRITICAL **: D-Bus service name:'org.freedesktop.Tracker1' is already taken, perhaps the daemon is already running? > > Yeah, something is left over, here, too. > >> GNOME_KEYRING_CONTROL=/tmp/keyring-gzQ2UL >> GPG_AGENT_INFO=/tmp/keyring-gzQ2UL/gpg:0:1 >> SSH_AUTH_SOCK=/tmp/keyring-gzQ2UL/ssh >> >> (xfce4-settings-helper:1569): libxfce4ui-WARNING **: ICE I/O Error >> >> (xfce4-settings-helper:1569): libxfce4ui-WARNING **: Disconnected from session manager. >> /etc/xdg/xfce4/xinitrc: line 221: 1426 Terminated xfce4-session > > At this point, you're stuck, I'm thinking. > >> running 'pkill -INT ^gpg-agent$; rm -f /home/tabitha/.cache/gpg-agent-info' > > There's a cache that you want to look at. See what's there, and either > delete it or move it to someplace like /home/isolationward/.cache . > > Re-boot and see what happens. > >> xfsettingsd: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0. >> Thunar: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.0. >> xfce4-settings-helper: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.0. >> >> (polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1:1447): Gdk-WARNING **: polkit-gnome-authentication-agent-1: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.0. >> >> g_dbus_connection_real_closed: Remote peer vanished with error: Underlying GIOStream returned 0 bytes on an async read (g-io-error-quark, 0). Exiting. >> >> Received signal:15 >> >> (nm-applet:1457): Gdk-WARNING **: nm-applet: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.0. >> >> abrt-applet: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.0. >> ABRT service is not running >> applet.py: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.0. >> g_dbus_connection_real_closed: Remote peer vanished with error: Underlying GIOStream returned 0 bytes on an async read (g-io-error-quark, 0). Exiting. >> xfwm4: Fatal IO error 2 (No such file or directory) on X server :0.0. >> >> (xfdesktop:1438): libxfce4ui-WARNING **: ICE I/O Error >> >> (xfdesktop:1438): libxfce4ui-WARNING **: Disconnected from session manager. >> migrate: Fatal IO error 0 (Success) on X server :0.0. >> No protocol specified >> -- > > I'm wondering if this is related to a problem I'm having where the > input method processes leak over a logout and then when I log in again > (any user), I have two input method icons in the task bar panel. > > -- > Joel Rees -- -- Joel Rees -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org