Tim: >> It always struck me that personal files ought to have no group or >> world permissions set by default. If you wanted your files to have >> those extra permission set, then it ought to be done as a deliberate >> choice. > Joel Rees: > Maybe "user-id" is mis-named. There are sure a lot of people who tend > to see "user-id" and expect the one-to-one correspondence. I know the > conflation caused me some frustration back in college, and I'm not > sure I got it properly worked out until I put together a few openbsd > systems. I don't see any reason why it should be anything else, and that it's more of a conflagration to try and do it any other way. Sure, there's /some/ added security in separated accounts for different activities, and some added privacy (just recently it's become even more annoying how if you've logged into one service, you suddenly find that other things you're looking at have you "logged in as a user" rather than an anonymous browser). But there's a lot of mess in when you need to be able to bridge between those different accounts (read and write to the files you saved in the other account). And if you make that dead easy to do, you've negated the point of using different accounts. And I certainly don't want to log in three times over, how ever you organise it, to read my email, browse web pages (related, or not, to the email I'm reading), write in a word processor (which may involve browsing some webpages, and copying and pasting), simultaneously. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org