suvayu ali wrote: > On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 12:39, Frantisek Hanzlik <franta@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> suvayu ali wrote: >>> On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 10:46, Frantisek Hanzlik <franta@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>> wrote: >>>> IMO it is problem in newer bash versions, but yet more I suspect >>>> when it may be any cripled systemd behavior at init 0/6 (sorry, i >>>> want say poweroff.target/reboot.target ;), whether systemd (in >>>> order to halt/reboot computer several microseconds faster) kill >>>> bash before it is able save their stuff. >>> >>> This is just a ridiculous claim. Do you have any evidence to support >>> this claim? >> >> And more - at several important machines when I want reboot >> them, I press for logging off and then login on for this only >> "shutdown -r now" command. And by then I at these machines not >> observed problems with bash history. Maybe it is speculation, >> but seem for me as systemd causation. >> > > I have used shutdown many times since Fedora switched to systemd. It has > always worked for me. I think your problem is more likely due to some > options or commands in your bashrc and profile files. If you really > believe another program is to blame, I would rather investigate programs > which interact with your desktop session more closely (e.g. your > terminal emulator, your desktop's session manager, some faulty cron job, > a bug in some script, ... I can keep going), rather than point fingers > at systemd. > > If I were you, I would check some of the following: > > 1. Do you use any kind of history manipulation commands in your rc or > profile files (e.g. any commands like `history <options>`)? > 2. Do you have any history related environment variable set to some > undefined value (could be a typo, a change in compatibility between > versions, or some other reason)? > 3. Do you have anything in your prompt related variables that could be > misbehaving (e.g. PS1, PROMPT_COMMAND, etc)? > 4. Do you have some stray old rc file messing up the settings? > 5. Could there be some rc files from some other compatible shell > interfering with your bash instance? > > When the problem occurs again, I would also check for the last > modification time and size of your history file to confirm the observation. > >> Franta > > Hope the pointers above help. Hmm, I'm only not systemd fanatical sectarian. It is program as others, new thing, with bugs, is evolving according to system/distributions needs. IMO tell something as described here: http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/why.html without single false point to systemd, it simply isn't true. Regarding Your recommendations - I personally think problem isn't there (with F15 I switched to Xfce, but desktop manager probably isn't culprit as at some machines where problem occurs I'm working only in console. System and user profile/bashrc are Fedora's original (only difference is "HISTORY=10000" in /etc/profile, and several aliases in root's .bashrc (for rpm, I use these for years), nothing else. Points 1)-5) too aren't probable/possible - they not exist or their resulst would be more predictable. Now occurred to me that i can watch several (mainly roots) history files by incrond and start some script which log some events on it. Maybe it helps. Thanks. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org