Once upon a time, Marko Vojinovic <vvmarko@xxxxxxxxx> said: > If I may chime in a bit... If anaconda uses NetworkManager for the minimal > install, then NM should be a part of the minimal install, right? Or else, NM > should be available on the minimal install boot media, so that the OP can use > it somehow to activate his wireless network. anaconda is also running X, but that doesn't mean X should be part of the minimal install. There will always be arguments about what is "minimal"; to me, minimal would only have the bare minimum needed to boot and log in (kernel, boot loader, init system, shell, and basic editor), bring up basic networking (/sbin/ip and maybe /sbin/ifup and the old "network" service), and install other software (rpm and yum). Everything else could be added from there. I think it is fair to only support basic wired networking in the minimal install (things that the most they might need from userspace is a firmware file and /sbin/ip). Once you go down the path of adding wireless, you need daemons (at a minimum wpa_supplicant for most networks), and then you'll get arguments for other networking methods (Bluetooth, PPP/PPPoE, cellular, VPNs, etc.). Now your minimal install is not so minimal, and you've added a bunch of stuff that isn't applicable to lots of minimal installs. If you need wireless on your installed system and want an otherwise minimal system, select "Minimal" and then customize the package set to add NetworkManager (and/or whatever is needed for your setup). -- Chris Adams <cmadams@xxxxxxxxxx> Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org