On Thu, Mar 01, 2012 at 08:36:34PM +0000, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: > On 01/03/12 18:44, Paul W. Frields wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 01, 2012 at 03:05:44PM +0000, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: > >> > >> I have tried to do a network install of Fedora 16 multiple times, but it > >> has failed every time! More to the point I also discovered that the > >> anaconda install ignores changes I requested for the partition layout. > >> Excuse me for suggesting this, but Fedora 15 and 16 releases seem to be > >> the most troublesome releases ever, even exceeding the problems of the > >> transition to KDE 4. In fact I'm beginning to lose patience with Fedora > >> and will probably look at switching to another distro, so all > >> suggestions of an alternative stable KDE distribution are welcome. > > > > If you can describe exactly what you did, it would be easier to offer > > advice or help. For instance, a blow-by-blow of what you did at the > > partitioning screen would be useful. > > > > Using the network install CD, (verified from hash) > > Setting it to automatically partition and use a 1 Tb drive, changing the > GUI to be KDE rather than Gnome, it hangs after between 130 and 500 > packages have been installed. It failed the same way when no changes to > the default packages were made. Numerous variations, including > simplifying the hardware to just motherboard, graphics card, memory, > HDD, and DVD RW made no difference! Even connecting directly to the ISP > modem made no difference. I doubt you can suggest something new. You can often see error messages by switching to an alternate tty: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Anaconda/Logging Whether you can switch (using Ctrl+Alt+F2, F3, F4, etc.) may depend on whether you're getting a really awful problem like a kernel panic -- which may indicate a hardware error particular to your setup -- or just a network timeout of some sort. Ctrl+Alt+F2 will give you tty2, a shell where you can look at the current logs in /tmp. Similarly Ctrl+Alt+F3 (tty3) and Ctrl+Alt+F4 (tty4) will give you higher level messages which might indicate the problem. The fact that you're having difficulty with a number of different methods makes me think it's more likely a hardware difficulty. Can you verify your memory, storage, etc. are all fine using other OS utilities? > Using the KDE spin CD, (verified by hash and does boot in vesa mode) > > Installation completes, but then fails to finish configuring the HDD > causing the subsequent boot from grub to fail!. > > Finally I have failed to burn an install DVD either on the PC or a > laptop, it also failing multiple times! Hence my attempts to update from > Fedora 14 appear to have been thwarted and I'm somewhat annoyed!! > > After this much trouble I am becoming seriously disillusioned with Fedora!!! > > Breaking news!!! I have a flaky Fedora 16 running on my PC, here's > roughly how: > > Installed from KDE spin CD > Ran update from network install CD, (multiple times due to failures) > > still cannot boot the latest kernel though, and it appears to crash far > more frequently than I'd expect. Bottom line is I'm still not going to > try updating my laptop from Fedora 14 until I see Fedora 16/17 become a > lot more stable! Well, this is a step forward, but let's not rush to conclude this is a general or widespread F16 stability problem. I've run both on my hardware here with zero problems, as have many other people I know. My whole family uses it daily on several computers and it's been solid as a rock since the public release. A lot of dedicated, wonderful folks put a ton of time into making sure that Fedora is as good as possible before that happens. Nevertheless, do think about reporting a complete bug if you can make the same problem happen repeatedly. Start here for beginner information, but if you're going to file a kernel bug, I *highly* recommend you press on to read the more detailed information linked at the end. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_file_a_bug_report -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
