On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 11:54:06 -0500 Tom Horsley <horsley1953@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I login to X with KDM > > Then I can run fvwm in my ~/.xsession script. > > More info available here: > > http://home.comcast.net/~tomhorsley/wisdom/stick/stick.html Thanks for the reference. Because of the way I installed F15, I boot to multiuser instead of X (I did a minimal network install, ran preupgrade in F14 to get the packages for F15 that I used in F14, then used them to upgrade the minimal install, and left F14 intact as fallback. The Fedora wiki describes the simple process of cleaning up a partially preupgraded system.). The minimal install boots to multiuser by default, I find I like it that way, and haven't fixed it. If an X session goes bad, switch to the console it is running on and type Ctrl-C, all better. If I find no way to do it from the console, I'll break down and implement your method after I fix the boot to be graphical instead of multiuser. I had no idea that Gnome was so interdependent / monolithic. Reminds me of a giant COBOL program. And yes, now that you mention it, that is how Windows is too. To each their own. And regardless how I might frown at that kind of design (where were the architects?), I got lots of great use out of the interface as long as their idea and mine of what a GUI is were somewhat similar, and thank them for that, and wish them well. A possibility I haven't pursued yet is http://fvwm-themes.sourceforge.net/ and there look to be some great themes there. That is supposed to start with a simple fvwm-themes-start from a console. Fedora doesn't seem to have that as a package, so I'll compile and install it from tarball. It seems fairly old, so might be obsolete. If that works, I'll upgrade to the latest fvwm (2.6.4). I wanted to kick the tires on fvwm before I invested a lot of time and effort in it. There are lots of great config files on the web I wanted to try. Looks like that plan isn't going to work without some modification. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org