On Sat, 2012-02-18 at 14:58 -0600, Steven Stern wrote: > On 02/18/2012 02:17 PM, les wrote: > > HI, everyone, > > I know that this has been discussed before, and I will go back and read > > more of that. > > > > I want more efficient use of my desktop. Pretty is nice for most > > people and of course design driven types, but I am a technophile, closer > > to Sheldon (of big bang theory) than normal people. I know that. > > > > Here is what I find in using the desktop as it exists in F16: > > > > The need to click to get to the computer is annoying at its very best > > and a real vocabulary expander in normal use. Every time I use one > > application and I want to access another I have to click > > "activities" > > my windows shrink.... > > and I have to move the mouse to > > "applications" > > click > > I get the menubar I should have in the first place > > of course its on the opposite side of the screen and I now have > > to mouse over there and click > > "topic" (and the applications are somehow scattered by my view) > > which should be a pullright to a menu > > but which sprinkles applications all over the screen. > > mouse to my application > > click > > "my application" > > And finally my application comes up. > > Oh, yes, I do have a 23" monitor, so the route of crossing the desktop > > will get worse when I upgrade or go to multiple monitors later this > > year. > > > > This is so ergonomically inefficient, so slowing that it adversely > > impacts my progress. > > > > Anyway, that is only the most irritating bit I have found so far, but it > > is worse. I don't see anyway to move the icons, change their sizes, > > move them to various menus, expand the menus, or do anything at all to > > change the current layout which is not at all conducive to my work. I > > put this off long enough to hope that these issues had been addressed, > > but they are not. > > > > I don't want to start a flame war. I don't want to start a debate > > about desktop managers (I know there are many out there) Nor do I wish > > to castigate anyone. I want to just make the thing do what I want > > without a whole lot of deep investigation into XML files. > > > > I want to know where the documents and or utilities are that will let > > me do something to improve my working environment and get back to > > efficiency. If you have useful information, please send it on. I am > > sure I am not the only one who wants this information, nor should it be > > hand editing xml files, although if that is the only method, I will do > > it until I get too frustrated with Fedora. AT this point I will not > > give the disks to a friend who wants to use Fedora, because he is sight > > impaired and this desktop will not work. That is a real affront to > > disabled people and should spark some kind of action by everyone > > involved. > > > > Please keep it civil and provide solutions for this desktop, don't say > > change desktops, don't start flaming, just help me and others get this > > thing to do what we need. > > > > With all that said, the basic needs as I see it are: > > 1. a way to get a list type menu instead of icons > > 2. a way to move the icons (if a list is not possible) or listing to > > different top level applications menus. > > 3. Get the applications menu on screen all the time as a pulldown. > > 4. ability to change icons by right clicking on the current icon and > > selecting a "change icon" menu which will open a file navigator. > > 5. remove the "activities" switch and put the windows and applications > > buttons in its place with pull downs optional. > > 6. remove the "favorites" and just let us put the icons on the desktop > > if we so desire. > > 7. do whatever else can be done to allow font selection, including > > fontsize as well as icon size for the desktop. This is an HID > > requirement anyway. > > 8. Stop the messing around with the open desktop in any way whatsoever. > > It is distracting and interferes with efficiency. > > > > > > Oh, and I did do some Google-ing, but got very little useful > > information. Since Fedora is the cutting edge, lets make it cut a good > > swath. Thanks. > > > > Regards, > > Les Howell > > > > > I'm very happy with XFCE4 and avant-windows-navigator > > -- > -- Steve I agree with Steve hat Gnome 3 is not fo you considering what you want to do. -- ======================================================================= I like the way ONLY their mouths move ... They look like DYING OYSTERS ======================================================================= Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akonstam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
