On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 01:48:47PM +0000, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Paul W. Frields wrote: > > >> > Browse to "about:config" and set "network.manage-offline-status" to > >> > "false". > >> > > >> > IIRC this happens when you use the network service instead of > >> > NetworkManager. Firefox queries NetworkManager for the offline > >> > status, and thinks you're offline when it's not in use. Setting that > >> > option prevents Firefox from doing this. > >> > >> Thanks v. much for that. > >> > >> But why does Firefox do this? > >> It shows a surprising lack of common sense. > >> > >> I put it on a par with NetworkManager's habit of editing /etc/resolv.conf > >> and removing the nameservers mentioned there if it cannot see them. > > > > Probably because NetworkManager has capabilities for setting static > > wired connections, and for setting hands-off on DNS entries. The > > Firefox maintainers have chosen to assume that most users are not > > going to mess with the innards of networking scripts, and that letting > > NM manage connections is the most prudent move if you have to make one > > choice for everyone. People who like to mess with innards will > > undoubtedly figure out how to change configurations. The number of > > users who would be baffled by delays in browsing when their connection > > drops likely far outnumbers those who would be stymied by Offline Mode > > in this case. > > Why not just tell the user the connection has dropped, > if that is the situation? Your OS does that already. I just dropped my wired connection a few moments ago to test this was correct. Firefox doesn't know whether it's on purpose or accident, so I imagine the developers didn't want to make an incorrect assumption. After all, you can still browse against your cache if needed, which is quite useful in a number of cases. > You seem to be saying that the user is supposed to deduce this > from the fact that Firefox has changed to Offline mode. > That seems crazy to me. > Even IE has more sense than that. Not what I'm suggesting. Just saying your OS already tells you your connection has dropped, and Firefox is capable of reacting to that. But this is a Firefox design question, it sounds like. I'm not a Firefox developer so I can't speak for them. -- Paul W. Frields http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
