On 1/4/2012 5:06 PM, Dave Ihnat wrote:
On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 04:59:29PM -0800, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
I've always tried to make sure everything is lowest common
denominator between Microsoft and Linux unless there is a good
reason. I learned the hard way the first time I had to port from
Linux to Microsoft. I really dislike anything on my computers having
kittens.
Heh. Unfortunately, if we're using a Linux box as server host for a
bunch'o Win boxen, we'll get the Windows directory paths inside the shares.
*Shrug*. It's the nature of the beast.
That part of the beast is not one I willing invite into my home network
as I get to create it the way I want and I don't want that headache.
I think part of it was a dislike for style / syntax of scripting /
shells. ...
...
...I was brought up with programming languages
and assembler/machine, they defined my taste in tailors ...
Well, remember the Bourne shell--the origin for sh, bash, etc.--was written
to be ALGOL 68. So it's a programming language...
Yes, good point. I never used ALGOL-"any year" (or if I did, I was too
young to know it). I went through machine language, JOSS, and SAIL
(there may have been others that I can't remember). I know that one can
view shell scripting as shell programming and I won't dispute that view.
An interesting little ditty, if you don't know it. Steve Bourne really
loved ALGOL. So much so that he wrote the original shell *in* ALGOL...kind
of. It was ostensibly 'C'...but he created an entire set of #defines to
allow him to actually write the shell in ALGOL.
When I heard this, I said, "Naw...". When I actually got to work at Bell
Labs around 1980, and got access to the Unix source code, one of the first
things I did was check the source. Yes, he did.
This also explains why the original shell remained static for so long--it
was a hellish mess; nobody wanted to be responsible for trying to change it.
Thanks for the story!
Paul
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