I know that recently some folk have posted of bad experiences with f16 - however I am running f16 on 6 machines (4 laptops and 2 desktops) with 4 x86_64 and 2 i686 - and all are now stable, and running with a responsive and crisp xfce desktop. I can do everything that I need to do, and one of the machines is a server and has performed flawlessly since its install about a month ago. Yes it does need some love and attention to get things configured and set up working as desired (and some lookups and learning) - but I am really pretty happy overall with f16 now - so this is general thank you to all developers and testers in getting f16 to a good working state - of course there are some residual bugs which need squashing (Name "any" system has zero bugs after all!). Have a great New Year all. -- mike c -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org