On 22.12.2011 21:57, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 12/22/2011 10:58 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> On 22.12.2011 19:40, Joe Zeff wrote: >>> > On 12/22/2011 07:17 AM, Tim wrote: >>>> >> "The rule for migration to systemd is to "start-over fresh" with default >>>> >> start and stop policy from the new package, and not to migrate what the >>>> >> user had previously configured." >>> > >>> > In other words, the new rule is to assume that whoever set the system up >>> > and runs it doesn't know what they're doing >> the assumtion seems to be right in your case >> >> sorry, but if you make a dist-upgrade and need from Dec 6 until Dec 21 >> that the syslogd is not running (why does not matter in this context) >> your smallest problem is any change / bug > > Actually, I'd not noticed it sooner because I hadn't any reason to check until yesterday. For most of that time I > had far bigger things to worry about, such as why I couldn't get into X, why my sound still doesn't work, why I can > only mount USB drives or CDs as root (and I still can't get USB drives world writable.) and trying to clean up all > of the duplicate packages left by a hung install. Yesterday, while looking into the USB/CD issue I happened to > stumble on the rsyslog issue. Tell me, Tim, how often do you need to examine /var/log/messages? EVERY DAY multiple times i check "dmesg" and "/var/log/messages" on 20 production and around 10 test setups why? because i am responsible for perfect running systems no matter if they are test-machines, my workstations or high important production servers however, do not check this after dist-upgrades is a epic-fail how do you debig all the other problems you wrote about if least your syslog does not work?
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