On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Joe Zeff <joe@xxxxxxx> wrote: > On 12/22/2011 02:31 AM, mike cloaked wrote: >> >> the almost inevitable >> problems that have come from the upgrade of an older system. > > > And I've been doing upgrades for years and this is the first time I've ever > had the slightest bit of trouble. What "almost inevitable problems" are you > referring to It depends on what changes in a variety of packages in the new system have been made and how well the upgrade has gone. Of course there is more than one way to do so - yum upgrade or preupgrade route. I have done yum upgrades on a system where there was difficult direct access and it was "easier" to upgrade than try to gain access to clean install. However I have found selinux context issues and at other times dependency issues with yum upgrades - even with fn to fn+1. I have to admit I have only done yum upgrades and not used pre-upgrade mainly due to the difficulties I have seen reported on the list. I have also done a yum upgrade leading to a non-bootable system that I ended up clean installing as it was quicker than trying to diagnose what had gone wrong with the upgrade. Since the problems I had with that route I abandonned trying and stuck with clean installs - and not had any problems since - the last one I did was a progressive upgrade via yum from f11 to f14 changing by one version at a time - and resolving all the dep issues and selinux issues along the way - it took ages but on that system I did not have easy direct clean install access since I was connected remotely. It did work but I balked at moving to f15 - eventually that machine was taken out of service and I replaced its functions with a new machine. Of course others may largely have had no problems with ugrades and maybe I was just the one unlucky one! Anyway with all the QA testing on recent versions as well as the QA testing of the upgrade path perhaps my experience of it is simply outdated. -- mike c -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org