If hd is toast.. it can't hurt to tap it hard a few times, in the right ways... You can lightly tap it while it's trying to boot..? Off the top.. Why not install the hd upside-down, and try it..? Or freeze it with freeze spray, but not so much so as to cause snow and ice to form on cct brds..? Recite a hard-drive repair-prayer to one of your pretend gods..? If pops were still alive he'd probably suggest, "do a dance on one foot, whilst holding the other foot high, in the right hand, whilst singing frarajoka backwards in tenor".. but you can't ever believe anything pops said... Off the top, Why not open the box, and check that all wire connectors are properly mated..? Last idea says the hd has developed bad sectors.. Me thinks there's software to rewrite onto good sectors what's on bad ones..? -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Accessible with your email software or over the web -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org