Is the network service still available in Fedora-16 as an alternative to NM (NetworkManager)? Or has it just become an interface to NM? Yesterday, NM went into some kind of fit on my Fedora/KDE laptop, with a small window entitled "Secret" appearing on my desktop, with a space to write a password, which unfortunately did not accept input. On clicking the Close button I was told that my WiFi connection was not available. I tried to "sudo service network restart" but the same window came up. Also, the CLI application system-config-network seems to have become quite useless, starting with the incomprehensible choice between Device configuration and DNS configuration. On choosing the first I am asked to Select a Device, with the choice p2p1, which I take to be ethernet, or <New Device>. After 2 re-boots NM started properly; but it made me wonder if there was an alternative to keep on the system in case NM didn't work. I used to use the network service for this, but as I said this doesn't appear to be available any more, at least in the way it used to be. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College Dublin -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org