F14usb8 on sda8 usb is my main f14, and works. backup copy F14sdc7 on internal scsi disk sdc7 does boot, but periodically becomes inoperable following msg on screen 'journal commit error' rebooting into F14usb8 I run e2fsck as follows [root@f14 ~]# e2fsck -p /dev/sdc7 /dev/sdc7: recovering journal /dev/sdc7: Clearing orphaned inode 1039409 (uid=500, gid=500, mode=0100600, size=2048) /dev/sdc7: Clearing orphaned inode 1039408 (uid=500, gid=500, mode=0100600, size=2576) /dev/sdc7: Clearing orphaned inode 1039407 (uid=500, gid=500, mode=0100600, size=2048) /dev/sdc7: Clearing orphaned inode 1039406 (uid=500, gid=500, mode=0100600, size=2576) /dev/sdc7: Clearing orphaned inode 1039405 (uid=500, gid=500, mode=0100600, size=2048) /dev/sdc7: Clearing orphaned inode 1039404 (uid=500, gid=500, mode=0100600, size=2056) /dev/sdc7: Clearing orphaned inode 1039403 (uid=500, gid=500, mode=0100600, size=512) /dev/sdc7: Clearing orphaned inode 1039402 (uid=500, gid=500, mode=0100600, size=2048) /dev/sdc7: Clearing orphaned inode 1039401 (uid=500, gid=500, mode=0100600, size=2056) /dev/sdc7: Clearing orphaned inode 1039400 (uid=500, gid=500, mode=0100600, size=512) /dev/sdc7: Clearing orphaned inode 1039399 (uid=500, gid=500, mode=0100600, size=0) /dev/sdc7: Clearing orphaned inode 973332 (uid=500, gid=500, mode=0100644, size=32768) /dev/sdc7: Clearing orphaned inode 973169 (uid=500, gid=500, mode=0100600, size=1976) /dev/sdc7: Clearing orphaned inode 1039398 (uid=500, gid=500, mode=0100600, size=16) /dev/sdc7: Clearing orphaned inode 1039397 (uid=500, gid=500, mode=0100600, size=42) /dev/sdc7: Clearing orphaned inode 1039395 (uid=500, gid=500, mode=0100600, size=4096) /dev/sdc7: clean, 274877/1062880 files, 2200422/4245168 blocks [root@f14 ~]# [root@f14 ~]# e2fsck -p /dev/sdc7 /dev/sdc7: clean, 274877/1062880 files, 2200422/4245168 blocks [root@f14 ~]# then it is possible to reboot into f14sdc7 and it will stay alive for a while. Is this indication of a flaky disk sdc? Any one ever seen 'journal commit error? -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org