4dec2011 I am getting major "Read-only" errors trying to backup my f14 system [on external USB partition sda8], which still seems to behave ok, to my 2nd scsi disk onto partition sdc7. I imagine this means the scsi sdc is going bad, but how to determine that vs a trashed system file? sdc7 write errors:"Read-only file system" 1) using rbu [an rsync based backup tool-Vincent Stemen] [root@f14 /]# rbu d=/mnt/sdc7 home Backup directory: /mnt/sdc7 rsync: readlink_stat("/home/byers/.gvfs") failed: Permission denied (13) /home/ rsync: recv_generator: mkdir "/mnt/sdc7/home" failed: Read-only file system (30) *** Skipping any contents from this failed directory *** rsync error: some files/attrs were not transferred (see previous errors) (code 23) at main.c(1052) [sender=3.0.8] [root@f14 /]# 2) similar "Read-only" using cp: [root@f14 /]# cp -a home /mnt/sdc7 cp: cannot create directory `/mnt/sdc7/home': Read-only file system [root@f14 /]# But ls -ld shows sdc7 as rw: [root@f14 /]# ls -ld /mnt/sdc7 drwxr-xr-x. 6 root root 4096 Dec 3 07:53 /mnt/sdc7 3) other evidence from /var/log messages: Dec 3 07:54:29 f14 kernel: [ 4196.587526] sd 3:0:1:0: rejecting I/O to offline device Dec 3 07:54:29 f14 kernel: [ 4196.587686] sd 3:0:1:0: rejecting I/O to offline device Dec 3 07:54:29 f14 kernel: [ 4196.587737] sd 3:0:1:0: rejecting I/O to offline device Dec 3 07:54:29 f14 kernel: [ 4196.589427] JBD: Detected IO errors while flushing file data on sdc7 Dec 3 07:55:20 f14 kernel: [ 4247.277639] EXT3-fs (sdc7): error: ext3_journal_start_sb: Detected aborted journal [root@f14 /]# mount /dev/sda8 on / type ext3 (rw) proc on /proc type proc (rw) sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw) devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620) tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,rootcontext="system_u:object_r:tmpfs_t:s0") none on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw) sunrpc on /var/lib/nfs/rpc_pipefs type rpc_pipefs (rw) fusectl on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw) gvfs-fuse-daemon on /home/byers/.gvfs type fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon (rw,nosuid,nodev,user=byers) /dev/sda7 on /media/c2f44d00-09e6-45b2-9a14-a0a765716005_ type ext4 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks) /dev/sda2 on /media/rootusb2_ type ext3 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks) /dev/sda6 on /media/rootusb6_ type reiserfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks) /dev/sda5 on /media/rootusb5_ type reiserfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks) /dev/sda1 on /media/rootusb_ type reiserfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks) /dev/sda3 on /media/54c84c0a-040b-43bd-8887-202519baaae2_ type ext3 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks) /dev/sdc7 on /mnt/sdc7 type ext3 (rw) /dev/sdb1 on /f10sda1 type ext3 (rw) [root@f14 /]# Yet after rebooting my mainf14 acts ok # df -kh Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sda8 17G 8.3G 7.3G 54% / tmpfs 1007M 420K 1006M 1% /dev/shm /dev/sdb1 21G 12G 7.3G 62% /f10sda1 /dev/sdc9 16M 1.5M 13M 11% /grubp /dev/sda1 24G 18G 5.4G 78% /media/rootusb_ /dev/sda3 21G 9.2G 11G 48% /media/54c84c0a-040b-43bd-8887-202519baaae2_ /dev/sda5 8.0G 5.2G 2.8G 66% /media/rootusb5_ /dev/sda6 8.1G 7.0G 1.1G 87% /media/rootusb6_ /dev/sda7 16G 7.3G 7.4G 50% /media/c2f44d00-09e6-45b2-9a14-a0a765716005_ /dev/sda2 21G 7.5G 13G 38% /media/rootusb2_ # my disks layout: sda, external usb sda8 holds my orig f14, was trying to backup to sdc7 sdb, internal scsi sdb1 holds f10 sdc, internal scsi sdc7 now 'trashed'; I can reformat sdc7 w gparted, but same 'read-only' errors if repeat copy. sdc9 is my grub-only partition, containing only stage* files, grub.conf So my additional concern here is fixing, moving my grub partition sdc9[to sdb], if sdc is going bad. Presently if I don't try to copy to sdc7, my f14sda8 boots, and acts ok, so the grub partition sdc9 evidently still ok. My old notes on how I installed GRUB: # grub.conf modified from sda1 f10 for grubpartn saikee sdb9 hd1,8 #from knoppix find / -name stage1; cp to sdb9 /boot/grub #from knoppix root (hd1,8), setup (hd0) to install to mbr of sda (this was before obtaining the external USB, hence sdb9 then is now sdc9) My grub partition on sdb9, but evidently GRUB installed to MBR on sda. This has worked for years, but I am not clear why ok to mix sdb for grub partion, sda for MBR. Any advice more than welcome Jack -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org