On Fri, 2011-12-02 at 19:40 -0800, Scott Doty wrote: > On 12/02/2011 07:10 PM, Craig White wrote: > > On Sat, 2011-12-03 at 10:41 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > >> On 12/03/2011 09:38 AM, Craig White wrote: > >>> Whatever Linus thinks of Gnome is rather beside the point in that he is > >>> a kernel developer, not a Desktop UI expert and I am rather amused by > >>> those who felt his dis' of Gnome 3 or apparently now his receptiveness > >>> actually matters. > >> So this is what I hear you saying..... > >> > >> Linus is a kernel developer and not a UI developer. Thus, his opinion > >> does not matter. > >> Since Linus is not a UI developer, he is only an end user. Thus, the > >> opinions of end users don't matter. > > ---- > > I think his opinion matters as much as anyone else (and I gather that in > > the eyes of Gnome developers, not so much). > > > > You know my feelings as I too am a KDE 4 survivor ;-) To make an omelet, > > you have to break some eggs. I think there is a core of long time Linux > > users who were upset because their familiar interface changed. Such is > > progress. > > > > > > Change for the sake of change has always been idiotic. > > In the case of Gnome 2, how many person-hours have been invested for > people to customize their work environments? And poof! All gone! > > But it is very hipcrime to be counter-cultural these days -- why yes, > let's poo-poo Linus' opinion -- after all, he's a "long time Linux > user", whose opinion is ranked by idiots to be slightly lower than those > charged with the crime of the current Gnome UI regression. > > Those who still employ critical thinking might be interested in the > logical fallacy we are being subjected to: > > http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/mathew/logic.html#novitatem > > ...but we already knew that, didn't we? ---- Considering... - that you can have your beloved Gnome 2 for at least another 5 years on RHEL 6 (or various rebuilds thereof), - that Fedora embraces the latest technology advances and yes, that includes Gnome, - that approximately 3 years is considered a generation in terms of computer technology which includes everything from hardware to end user interfaces, - that regardless of you feelings of Gnome 3, there are people who actually like it, - that a significant portion of the Gnome code base had aged and needed to be re-written was not merely 'Change for the sake of change', - you want to pin some relevance to whatever Linux Torvalds thinks about Gnome is actually significant to this or any discussion, your whimpers are laughable. I don't recall seeing you post on this list before tonight. Are you a longtime Fedora user? Been using a different name? Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org