At odd intervals (measured in quarter-hours, I think), F16 with either Gnome or xfce will act up as follows. The cursor remains visible, and moves according to the mouse; and the eyes in panels follow it. But clicking, anywhere, right or left, does nothing. Sometimes, if the focus is at the prompt on a terminal, that will take input. Sometimes Ctrl-Alt-Bksp will bring a fresh login screen; sometimes not. Sometimes Ctrl-Alt-Del will reboot; sometimes not, and only the reset button (if any) has an effect. Incidentally, the machine I still have F16 on gets an error message on boot saying it has to use backup mode, or whatever it's called, and can't do full Gnome 3. -- Beartooth Staffwright, Not Quite Clueless Power User I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines