I have been running f16 x86_64 with kde 4.7.3 for a week or two on two different machines. Occasionally I have found that the screen saver kicks in but then fails to time out and so the screensaver runs continuously without powersaving the monitor after a period as normally happens. Occasionally I have had chrome not close down properly and leaves a tab in the panel labeled as chrome but not able to remove it except that moving to a different desktop with a keyboard switch sometimes mysteriously fixes it. So there appears to be some mysterious instability in kde 4.7.3 that I can't easily diagnose. There is nothing I can find in the logs to indicate a problem but it is a little irritating - I can't roll out kde on f16 to less experienced users until kde becomes really stable. These issues are happening several times per day for a machine that is in use (by me). Once a machine is left to its own devices with the screensaver running and once it has gone into monitor powersave it seems stable - but it doesn't always get to that stage, and these randomly timed instabilities are an annoyance. Anyone else had any similar issues? I have seen on a gentoo list that people are also seeing instability with 4.7.3 and are making comments that kde 4.8 looks much more stable! Does anyone know what is the status is of kde development with regard to Fedora and the rollout timescale for kde 4.8? Thanks -- mike c -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines