Dear Fedora group, Yesterday I updated the lastest F16 fixes. E.g. mesa-dri-drivers-7.11-11.fc16.i686 today, twice, the system has hung completely as I opened a new window. The new window was different on the two occasions; emacs last time. /var/log/messages has nothing in it. How should I debug? Bill Kernel: 3.1.1-1.fc16.x86_64 > lsmod Module Size Used by tcp_lp 2111 0 ebtable_nat 1967 0 ebtables 21732 1 ebtable_nat ipt_MASQUERADE 2248 3 iptable_nat 4687 1 nf_nat 18606 2 ipt_MASQUERADE,iptable_nat xt_CHECKSUM 1277 2 iptable_mangle 1663 1 tun 14111 2 bridge 72375 0 stp 1927 1 bridge llc 4754 2 bridge,stp libafs 658715 2 bnep 14195 2 bluetooth 202902 7 bnep lockd 70080 0 nf_conntrack_netbios_ns 1265 0 xt_physdev 1715 1 nf_conntrack_broadcast 1319 1 nf_conntrack_netbios_ns nf_conntrack_ipv4 8310 29 iptable_nat,nf_nat ip6t_REJECT 4008 2 nf_defrag_ipv4 1513 1 nf_conntrack_ipv4 nf_conntrack_ipv6 7714 25 nf_defrag_ipv6 9115 1 nf_conntrack_ipv6 xt_state 1306 51 nf_conntrack 67597 8 ipt_MASQUERADE,iptable_nat,nf_nat,nf_conntrack_netbios_ns,nf_conntrack_broadcast,nf_conntrack_ipv4,nf_conntrack_ipv6,xt_state ip6table_filter 1655 1 ip6_tables 16776 1 ip6table_filter fuse 61671 5 gspca_ov519 30064 0 gspca_main 18860 1 gspca_ov519 videodev 78689 1 gspca_main media 11511 1 videodev v4l2_compat_ioctl32 7665 1 videodev snd_usb_audio 105329 2 snd_usbmidi_lib 18071 1 snd_usb_audio snd_rawmidi 19878 1 snd_usbmidi_lib snd_hda_codec_analog 82289 1 snd_hda_intel 24072 2 snd_hda_codec 85181 2 snd_hda_codec_analog,snd_hda_intel snd_hwdep 6264 2 snd_usb_audio,snd_hda_codec snd_seq 52186 0 snd_seq_device 5941 2 snd_rawmidi,snd_seq e1000e 174876 0 snd_pcm 78498 3 snd_usb_audio,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec hp_wmi 8103 0 sparse_keymap 3358 1 hp_wmi rfkill 16336 3 bluetooth,hp_wmi ppdev 7360 0 snd_timer 19372 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm snd 63124 19 snd_usb_audio,snd_usbmidi_lib,snd_rawmidi,snd_hda_codec_analog,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm,snd_timer soundcore 6267 1 snd parport_pc 19600 0 snd_page_alloc 7311 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm parport 32310 2 ppdev,parport_pc iTCO_wdt 12024 0 microcode 18539 0 iTCO_vendor_support 2578 1 iTCO_wdt tpm_infineon 6962 0 serio_raw 4298 0 virtio_net 12856 0 kvm_intel 119162 0 kvm 328030 1 kvm_intel nls_utf8 1389 1 sunrpc 201219 2 lockd udf 66472 0 crc_itu_t 1547 1 udf uinput 7230 0 binfmt_misc 6983 1 usb_storage 45966 4 pata_acpi 3419 0 uas 7775 0 wmi 9049 1 hp_wmi ata_generic 3587 0 i915 389602 2 drm_kms_helper 26490 1 i915 drm 194476 3 i915,drm_kms_helper i2c_algo_bit 4958 1 i915 i2c_core 25728 5 videodev,i915,drm_kms_helper,drm,i2c_algo_bit video 12388 1 i915 -- Bill Murray ---- ATLAS STFC RAL at: Bat 161 1-08, CERN,1211 Meyrin, Geneve 23, Switzerland Tel:- CERN +41 22 7670631 or RAL +44 (0)1235 446256 -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines