Every single time I start firefox, or claws-mail, or for all I know anything else that does any kind of network activity, I get messages like this in /var/log/messages: Nov 17 19:40:48 zooty dbus[964]: [system] Activation via systemd failed for unit 'dbus-org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.service': Unit dbus-org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.service failed to load: No such file or directory. See system logs and 'systemctl status dbus-org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.service' for details. Nov 17 19:40:48 zooty dbus-daemon[964]: dbus[964]: [system] Activation via systemd failed for unit 'dbus-org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.service': Unit dbus-org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.service failed to load: No such file or directory. See system logs and 'systemctl status dbus-org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.service' for details. I have NetworkManager disabled. I have even tried removing the files in /etc/dbus-1/system.d/ that define the NetworkManager service, and that is probably what produces the above errors instead of the previous slightly different ones I was getting. Does anyone have a clue what in the blue blazes systemd is doing to make it try so hard to start NetworkManager on any network activity? And better yet, a clue how to make it stop :-). Maybe my logs would be cleaner if I just changed the NetworkManager dbus service definition to run /bin/true so it would think it started it? Currently 99.9% of my /var/log/messages file consists of either the above messages or other ones that say: Nov 17 19:44:01 zooty systemd-logind[953]: New session 434 of user tom. Nov 17 19:44:02 zooty systemd-logind[953]: Removed session 434. which apparently happen at least every 5 minutes when my cron job runs fetchmail. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines