I have two machines running f16 x86_64 fully up to date with a KDE desktop..... One has the following graphics: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G86M [Quadro FX 360M] (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) Subsystem: Dell Device 01ff Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 16 Memory at f5000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M] Memory at e0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M] Memory at f2000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=32M] I/O ports at df00 [size=128] [virtual] Expansion ROM at f4000000 [disabled] [size=128K] Capabilities: <access denied> Kernel driver in use: nouveau Kernel modules: nouveau, nvidiafb This machine runs KDE desktop effects beautifully - the cube for virtual desktops switches wonderfully and wobbly windows works as I would expect.. The other machine has the same system also x86_64 but its graphics is: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G96 [Quadro FX 380] (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) Subsystem: nVidia Corporation Device 063b Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 16 Memory at fc000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M] Memory at d0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M] Memory at fa000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=32M] I/O ports at dc80 [size=128] Expansion ROM at fde00000 [disabled] [size=512K] Capabilities: <access denied> Kernel driver in use: nouveau Kernel modules: nouveau, nvidiafb In this machine under the same conditions if I try to switch on desktop effects in KDE then it gives a popup saying that a slew of desktop effects cannot be turned on - including the cube. Both machines are running the stock nouveau driver..... Does anyone have a machine under the same conditions which does not allow desktop effects to work properly in f16 and if so is there a fix or workaround - or additional package needed - or a specific package from updates-testing that might help? Thanks -- mike c -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines