On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:08 AM, Rick Stevens <ricks@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
Yeah and for learning purposes I guess too this is well, as somebody points correct: I am going to stick with one particular distro for some time so that I can know what exactly is Linux.
Keep in mind that Fedora is a "cutting edge" distribution. It's
generally completely "updated" (replaced) every 6 months and old
versions are only supported for two updates, e.g. when Fedora 16
comes out, Fedora 14 will be obsoleted and orphaned (no updates).
If you want a relatively stable environment (and if you're just
learning, that might be a good idea), I'd go with Ubuntu, Debian or
CentOS (CentOS is built from the same source as Red Hat Enterprise
Linux).
If you're willing to bleed a bit, then yeah, Fedora is the way to
go. As the old saying goes, "If you're not on the edge, you're taking
up too much space." (he says, with tongue planted firmly in cheek)
Yeah and for learning purposes I guess too this is well, as somebody points correct: I am going to stick with one particular distro for some time so that I can know what exactly is Linux.
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 1:06 AM, Gary Baribault <gary@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Yeah, but decided to go with .rpm side (whatever be the reasons, I don't understand).
Hi, All three of the distributions you mentioned are major .. Ubuntu is more of a graphical Linux which will keep you safe, but will also restrict your learning experience in the sense that getting to a Root (administrator) command line is not encouraged. Fedore and SuSE are the other two major distributions, I personally used to use SuSE and have moved back to Fedora which has improved a lot lately (last 3 years). To me they are equivalent, but SuSE belongs to Novell, which was sold recently to AtachMate. SuSE also works closer with Microsoft, which for a Windows guy would seem better but for a Linux guy, makes us somewhat nervous!
RPM/DEB both work well, and shouldn't influence your choice.
Yeah, but decided to go with .rpm side (whatever be the reasons, I don't understand).
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 5:11 AM, Roger <arelem@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
That's a great point with Ubuntu that it finds automatically (as you are saying) but in Fedora/SUSE, I guess installation or some troubleshooting should be there before it (distro) catches the automatic detection of the attached hard ware like printer. I doubt if it (fedora) would detect my samsung (old) printer or not.
That's a good point, I can try that, first start the download of all the required CDs.
I agree with you. So that a little exposure to Linux would be there and then after getting some legs wet, I guess it would be easier for me.
rpm or deb really doesn't matter, administration is, to me, about
understanding the operating system components/applications.
I use both Fedora and Ubuntu and have done so for years. Both have
advantages.
Ubuntu is stable, upgrades with no fuss, it's good for things that you
"just want to work" and I've never noticed deb.
Fedora is also very good and I no longer hold with the axium "If you
ain't on the edge, you're taking too much space".
As one small example, my Laser printer Fuji Xerox. Setting up laser
printer in Fedora right up to Fedora 14 was a pain, pig of a job, hard
to do at the best of times. Why! Fedora still did not see printers on
USB. This is one reason I am reluctant to upgrade.
Ubuntu found the printer.
That's a great point with Ubuntu that it finds automatically (as you are saying) but in Fedora/SUSE, I guess installation or some troubleshooting should be there before it (distro) catches the automatic detection of the attached hard ware like printer. I doubt if it (fedora) would detect my samsung (old) printer or not.
I watch list discussion religiously to gauge Fedora problems before
deciding whether to fresh install the next version. I usually skip 1 or
2 versions before doing so.
I prefer Fedora for web development because it's file systems and
commands are same as our server OS Centos, where as Ubuntu
"apparently" does things differently, files named differently and in
different file systems.
You have a 250 g hd. you can run 3 operating systems as suggested, in
virtualbox or partitions, and see which works for you, but, while there
is not much to pick between ubuntu and Fedora they are very different
from windows.
That's a good point, I can try that, first start the download of all the required CDs.
My thoughts on long term would suggest go with Ubuntu. I would say that
once you are accustomed to Linux you will likely want to explore and
will probably install Fedora or other on a separate partition so it is
independent of Ubuntu.
I agree with you. So that a little exposure to Linux would be there and then after getting some legs wet, I guess it would be easier for me.
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 6:55 AM, D. Marshall Lemcoe Jr. <forum@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Ah, well.
All of the distributions listed have excellent support and release
cycles, meaning you won't be worrying about when you're going to get
the shiny new software.
Ah, well.
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Tim <ignored_mailbox@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Oh I see. I guess Ubuntu seems more easier but not as technical as is Fedora!
Because of its easiness, might be, its auto-detecting capabilities.
It's always going to be hard to answer "which is best" queries. As
there's numerous criteria, and conflicting answers.
If you want free support from other users, I would say Fedora and
Ubuntu. I haven't seen openSuse to comment on it. I've noticed more
knowledgeable answers on the Fedora list than the Ubuntu list, which
seems to have more dumb suggestions, last time I looked. By that I mean
silly suggestions from people clearly don't know what they're talking
about, and no corrections to such advice.
Oh I see. I guess Ubuntu seems more easier but not as technical as is Fedora!
That may have changed, with time. But bearing in mind that Ubuntu tends
to be the first port of call to Windows users, it seems to drag in more
of the crazy Windows mentalities (e.g. reinstall, reboot, and fiddle
with unrelated things to your problem).
Because of its easiness, might be, its auto-detecting capabilities.
With Fedora, you get an unencumbered OS. You shouldn't fall afoul of
any royalties, patents, etc. But you lose some functionality, such as
mp3 playback, unless you go to a third party and take a legal risk. Or,
the stability risks from things like closed source video card drivers
from certain vendors, rather than using the more basic open source
drivers.
Ubuntu doesn't care, and provides you with some things of dubious
legality (depending on where you are), so more things "just work."
To a more pure blooded *ix users, Ubuntu gets looked upon as the weenie
version of Debian. So, if your goal is a bit higher, you might want to
look further than just Ubuntu.
In all, Fedora is more technical as compared to Ubuntu.
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