When I first tried F15, I managed to get it hopelessly snarled; but now I have an expendable laptop running F16 Beta with xfce, and I think I can learn to live with it. The rest of my machines all still run F14. I'm wondering what my chances would be if I ran preupgrade twice on any of them. Anybody want to venture an educated guess? -- Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines