On 9/17/11 9:15 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Craig White wrote: > >>> This caused NM to modify or create files all over the place, >>> including deleting everything in /etc/resolv.conf . >>> This is a habit of NM that I don't understand - >>> I cannot think of any circumstances where an empty resolv.conf >>> would be better than one containing something, >>> however silly NM might think it was. >> ---- >> on the other hand, if you don't have any configured network adaptor, the >> content of /etc/resolv.conf is entirely irrelevant and when you do >> configure a network adaptor, the contents of /etc/resolv.conf become >> relevant. If you get an IP address automatically (ie DHCP-client), then >> it is configured automatically. If you enter an IP address manually, you >> will need to enter dns server addresses manually since the ones you >> choose are indeed relevant to the newly configured IP address. > I have found many times that I am not connected to the internet on my laptop > BECAUSE NM has deleted the entries in /etc/resolv.conf , > and that when I install the proper entries > (I keep them in /etc/resolv.conf.opendns for this purpose) > I am immediately connected. > (I do not need to enter my IP address manually.) > > I repeat: I simple don't understand why NM deletes the entries > in /etc/resolv.conf . if you apply chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf it will prevent the file from being overwritten by dhcpd > How could this possibly help me? > In my opinion, any entries in resolv.conf are better than none. > > I recently had the experience that NM deleted the HWADDR address > in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-wlan0 . > Why? > > I find the logic of NM completely incomprehensible, > and I haven't found any simple explanation of it anywhere. > > What exactly is its train of thought if it sees a single AP visible? > Wouldn't any normal person try to connect to that? > And if it found some key was needed, why not just ask for it? > More or less what Windows does, in fact. > > Recently, a new nightmare has occurred; > a window comes up called Secret, or something like that, > with a space for a password, in which it is impossible to write. > Admittedly closing the window does not seem to leave matters > any worse than before. > > To put it bluntly, NM is very bad if there is a problem. > It does not give any helpful advice, > and the entries in /var/log/messages are more or less meaningless, > eg "deactivating device (reason: 2)". > > > > > -- Christina Salls GLERL Computer Group help desk (734)741-2127 voicemail (734)741-2446 -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines