On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 7:02 PM, Steve Underwood <steveu@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I have FC15 on three machines with different hardware - different CPUs, > different graphics hardware. As installed, all three were kinda OK. > After recent updates all three now take about 5 seconds to change > windows. A warning box popping up is a minimum 10s activity - 5 seconds > to appear, and 5 to dismiss it. I find it hardware to believe I have > three special case machines which all hit the same obscure bug. How can > you call this a productive environment? I don't see anything like this at all. (I don't see bizarre jumping windows either.) Have you tried logging in as a new user to make sure there's nothing in your config affecting things? It definitely sounds like a bug to chase down. >> In my opinion, Fedora should be aimed at "power users" >> not "newbies". > Aiming a desktop at one group of users, rather than the general case, is > a weird choice. Its like stating clearly that you wish to remain in > obscurity, and never build the critical mass momentum to really get > anywhere. I'm talking about all Fedora users and developers, who should know their way around Linux already. Let the newbies run CentOS, and give _them_ a stripped down version of GNOME 3 if that's what they prefer. (However, I think even they should be offered a complete and visible learning curve.) > They broke the mouse, so the answer is more shortcuts? What about fixing > what was broken as a better alternative? I'm not talking about shortcuts to work around a mouse bug (missed that part of the thread). I'm talking about eliminating mouse use completely. I want to do everything from within emacs and its shells, because it's so much faster than GUI-based machinations. That said, nice GUIs are fun, pretty, great for newbies, and they can provide a nicely graduated learning curve, eventually getting out of the way when done right. Bugs should simply be fixed. - jos -- "Anybody who knows all about nothing knows everything" -- Leonard Susskind -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines