David L. Gehrt wrote: > I am a long time user of... RedHat, Fedora me2 > I am of the opinion that Linux may be at or close > to a crossroad moving from a computing genre in which the users > and > developers make cooperative decisions on alternative development paths > to > one in which changes are imposed by developers. did consumers ever have a say in development? Wasn't it always just providing what apple and windows had, or racing to keep up with hardware developments? people seemed to be satisfied with this. > For me it is not just that the Gnome2 environment is being replaced with > a > new version, it is that this new version, Gnome3, was seemingly > developed without much consideration of how the former version, Gnome2, > was being used and then imposed on users. Does a desktop environment have to remain static? Cannot it evolve with time and with the developments in the greater world of computing? There are those who think that the pinnacles were reached with kde3 and gnome2. I am not among them. > What this seems to imply is that in the future the mainline Linux UI will > be > characterized features imposed, and by lack of flexibility. There are also countless other window managers/desktop environments in the fedora repos, the most evolved being xfde and lxde. > This lack > of flexibility means that users are presented with a computing environment > with > features thought desirable by developers and which provide little or no > way > for users to modify their computing environment in ways that meet > their needs and preferences. You want to modify? I guess you haven't tried kde! I love it. > I suspect without knowing that this is someones idea of how to turn a > profit > by moving Linux to more profitable place on corporate desktops. Unlikely. Most corporations use windows and even more rarely update their software. My last employer was still using windows 2000 and a subsequent one windowsXP, without any of the service pack updates, for fear of a need for an expanded IT department. > The bottom line is that in he > absence > of consultation with users s/w developers are not very good at meeting > the needs of users Such consultation is certainly welcome, but I as a user am sometimes stumped when asked what I would like to see, as I don't know what is possible and I have no way to imagine the not yet realized. > As a country is the US becoming incompetent? no comment -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines