On Sat, 2011-08-27 at 15:54 -0500, Aaron Konstam wrote: > On Sun, 2011-08-28 at 00:21 +0930, Tim wrote: > > > > Fernando Cassia: > > > I disagree. I think that is exactly what formatting means, laying > > out > > > a new file system, and erasing the contents in the process. > > > > You can think what you like, it doesn't make misconceptions true. > > > > And my comment was specifically about what I quoted, but... > > > > Formatting means preparing a file system, it doesn't *mean* erasing > > the > > contents. It's a side-effect that your files are seemingly erased, > > but > > they're not. They're still there. And easily recovered with the most > > rudimentary of effort. > It does mean erasing the files on the disk or other media. Now what dews > erasing mean. It means that any program whose purpose is to list files > on the media will find no files. That is what most people mean by > erasing. In windows the system, tells you that all the contents of the > file will be lost. That is erasing in normal parlance. > > You know a secret that you want us all to take note of. That the > contents of the files are not erased. Only the links that allow us to > find the files are removed. And if you are knowledgeable about the > structure of the file system you can recover those links and bring the > files back. > That is true but not generally useful. Or to put it another way it is > only useful to people panicing that a file seems to have disappeared. > > I also disagree with the statement: They're still there. And easily > recovered with the most rudimentary of effort. They are not easily > recovered and the process is not rudimentary. > -- > ======================================================================= > I've finally learned what "upward compatible" means. It means we get to > keep all our old mistakes. -- Dennie van Tassel > ======================================================================= > Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akonstam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Actually I have used file recovery software. And while you may not think it is easy (it is not a trivial program to write is the meaning I think you inscribe to the process), running the program was quite simple, and it did recover my files. It took about 4 hours on a very large disk. But I just started the program and came back to find the disk recovered. To me, that is relatively easy. Regards, Les H -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines