Surprisingly enough, Fedora 15 will honor the nomodeset flag in the kernel boot line. With boot to console (multi-user, formerly known as run level 3) & the splash screen dispensed with, good console comes up. On startx, Gnome3 complains that I will miss the full wonderfulness and ecstaay of the Gnome experience. Boo-hoo-hoo! I will try to bear up under the pain. :) But actually gnome seems to work fine -- well as fine as a bloated, moron GUI can work. And the good console is restored on exit from Gnome. Now on to the hell of trying to bring up ppp on demand ... -- Lars Eighner http://www.larseighner.com/index.html 8800 N IH35 APT 1191 AUSTIN TX 78753-5266 -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines