On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 11:27 AM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Am 13.08.2011 17:19, schrieb Tom H: >> >> So anyone/anything with whom/which you don't agree is dumb, silly, ... > > no but it shows that all arguments "if we break applications we fix it" > is simply not true because in the reality this ends most of the time > in "i break it, we fix it and we are the others" > > i have no problem with changes > > i have only hughe problems with changes breaking things but released > anyways while don't care about anything and months after that the > things are not going fixed and on several bugreports nobody knows > who is responsible - to make clear who is responsible is needed > BEFORE roll out things breaking a lot of other > > what here happens is blindly changing things that were not broken > before and the users can only hope that it will be fixed in the > release who broke it or maybe in the next or even in a year > > my understandig of "distribution" is simply that such things are > coordinated and rolled out if dpending packages are prepared > instead of broken - you know the word "quality"? > > i know what now follows: "this is open source, why do YOU not fix it" > because i can not, but i must not be able to build a rock-solid > house to have the knowledge that it is not rock-solid if it breaks > down after the first rain! I've never and would never suggest "this is open source, why don't you fix it" because I'm not a developer and don't expect/assume others to be. There isn't a single distribution that's released without any bugs. Even RHEL and Debian, supposedly released when everything's OK and without a fixed release date, have bug fixes published almost immediately post-release. While we wait for a "proper" solution, I made some simple suggestions for getting more usual output from findmnt in lieu of mount in one post and someone posted a far more intelligent wrapper for df's output to return to normal in another post (although, if you have a bind mount in your fstab, you have to add "|bind" to the "egrep -v" argument). -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines