New install of F15 on Thinkpad X61. Httpd refuses to start using: systemctl enable httpd.service; systemctl start httpd.service User:group apache:apache exists and 'owns' /var/www No httpd.service file was installed through yum. I created one containing: ************************************** # httpd.service for systemd # installed to /lib/systemd/system [Unit] Description=httpd daemon After=mysqld.service [Service] EnvironmentFile=-/etc/sysconfig/httpd ExecStart=/usr/sbin/httpd $OPTIONS -k start ExecReload=/usr/sbin/httpd $OPTIONS -k restart PIDFile=/run/httpd.pid Type=forking User=apache Group=apache [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target **************************************** I only get 'Job failed. See system logs and 'systemctl status' for details'. [FAILED] Status details are no help. I added OPTIONS=" -e 3 -E /var/log/httpd/error_log -w" to /etc/sysconfig/httpd, which systemctl status says it is executing, but I get NO error_log entries. Moreover, I get NO systems logs of any sort from systemctl/systemd. FIRST QUESTION: Where are the system logs? I do NOT have a /var/log/messages file.... Do I need to set a logging option somewhere? SECOND QUESTION: If I use '/usr/sbin/httpd -k start', it works and I get httpd threads in the ps list. Service httpd status, at that point, says that the start FAILED. Service httpd stop does not actually stop anything, nor does systemctl httpd.service stop. (Does not know the pid?) But another service httpd start, reports that httpd is already running.... Does anyone know how to get this working? My google-foo is lacking. I can find nothing about where systemd logs data. And I can find nothing about whether to remove the original (F14) service files. R. Geoffrey Newbury -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines