On Thu, 2011-07-14 at 21:27 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote: > On Fri, 15 Jul 2011 09:53:57 +0900 > 夜神 岩男 wrote: > > > but the underlying base is so > > solid and logical that people who are really familiar with it are just > > enduring the arguments for now while they prepare Good Things. I > > consider this to be fairly likely > > Really, Can I sell you some swampland? :-) lol Well, I haven't read the core code myself, so I can't say that its bad tech. I can see that the Gnome devs and FESCO seem to be clinging to it quite tightly, however, and both tend to have more sound reasons than insane ones -- and based on that I have to assume at the core there lay some glowing gem of brilliance upon which great things can be built. (Ubuntu seems to be holding to it as well -- though the Ubuntu team's thoughts carry much less weight with me than FESCO.) A lot of good tech manifests an awkward userland at first -- and I'm hoping this is a similar case. Adding a slot for widgets, moving menus around, adding some protections against poorly written GTK+ code (like where a fixed-size window fixes its size at something larger than the available screen a la "Disk Utility"), etc. are somewhat trivial compared to the core code required -- if the suite is well designed. So I could understand if some of the interface issues have taken second stage to core development issues. Of course, open source is a mind-share market and keeping a positive spin on things is necessary, so announcements can't include tags like "interface still awkward!" in the feature list for version ?.0... But that's me being positive, perhaps overly so. -Iwao -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines