On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 1:41 PM, Aaron Konstam <akonstam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Thu, 2011-07-14 at 12:53 -0700, James McKenzie wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 11:01 PM, Frantisek Hanzlik <franta@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> > Tim wrote: >> >> I don't... They all (Linux too) seem to be heading for being some sort >> >> of iPad clone. Being all the more inappropriate for trying to use a >> >> touch-screen type of interface, when you don't have a touch-screen. >> >> >> >> They're also being painful as far as multi-tasking is concerned. >> >> Wacking great big oversized GUIs for things, so you can't use two or >> >> three applications side by side. You have to window shuffle. >> >> >> >> Starting things from the icons on the desktop background, so you have to >> >> get your windows out of the way to get to the icons. Having to search >> >> for your program, because there isn't a structured menu (either one >> >> that's categorised, or one that doesn't keep re-arranging the order that >> >> things and jumbled together). >> > >> > This is exactly one what I think about Gnome 3 - maybe good for >> > PADs, but tedious for power desktop users with many installed and >> > simultaneously running apps. >> > Golden Gnome 2! >> >> Gnome 2 is now offically dead. >> >> Now, back to what I said earlier. YOU, the Linux user, have a CHOICE >> of desktop/window managers. YOU should avail yourself of this >> feature. If you want to 'resurect' Gnome2, you are more than welcome >> to. It is after all, GPL/LGPL licensed and you should be free to spin >> off whatever you want. However, do not expect the Gnome support team >> to help in your efforts. >> >> For all concerned: The goal behind some of the moves you folks see in >> desktops is to move more users to Linux vice 'that other stuff'. This >> means making things familiar to those folks. I really would like for >> the old projects to be continued for us older 'power users' and new >> desktops to be introduced for those who need/desire those features. I >> did not like what happened when Windows95 introduced the 'Start' >> button feature. Over the years, I grew used to this. I still think >> that the idea is 'stupid' but I now understand why this happened. And >> I was and remain a command line power guru. >> >> James McKenzie > > I agree with you that Gnome2 is dead but someone has to explain why a > feature like holding the ALT key is necessary to power off in the User > Menu. It seems to me there was room in the original list for a Power off > option. > > I think that there is general agreement among the majority of F15 users > other than the Gnome developers that there are aspects of Gnome3 that > are just plain screwy. This is definitely not one of those things that should exist. Maybe the team feels that a new user would not understand what 'power off' means. I would find that insulting as a new Linux user coming from the other world. I think this is the wrong way to deal with this. I have not had the time to look at Gnome3 yet, but this makes me less likely to do so from an engineering/quality assurance/user experience view point. BTW, do they have a 'do you really want to do this' dialog or does Gnome3 go immediately into power down mode? James -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
