On 06/25/2011 12:11 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: > On 06/24/2011 11:55 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: >> Best I can tell it is network manager - as soon as it starts - kde >> desktop crashes and goes away .. yikes! >> > downgrading NetworkManager gets thing working again ... nm is > complaining bitterly in /var/log/messages ... FWIW, I just fully updated my F15/32bit system. No problems... Decided to reboot, on the off chance that is what you did but didn't mention it... Still no problems.... Yes, I'm a KDE user.... If nm is bitterly complaining in /var/log/messages you may want to actually post what those messages are so folks can see them an potentially help you? -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines