On 06/22/2011 09:10 AM, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: > On 22/06/11 16:04, john wendel wrote: >> On 06/21/2011 10:13 PM, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: >>> On 06/22/2011 03:43 AM, john wendel wrote: >>>> >>>> I removed the NetworkManager stuff from systemd, since I don't want to >>>> run it. Now there's a long boot delay while DBUS tries repeatedly to >>>> talk to NetworkManager. >>>> >>>> Obviously, I did something wrong. How should I have stopped NetworkManager? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> John >>>> >>> >>> Apologies before saying this, ever tried Windoze? No networkmanager, >>> just lots of other, (choose your own words). Personally networkmanager >>> works for me, but as the saying goes, to each their own. >>> >> >> Ever tried not being a moron? If NetworkManager worked for me, I'd be >> using it. And no, I haven't used Windoze since I installed Linux over my >> Windows 98 system. >> >> John >> > > Snap, I abandoned windoze 98 to Linux as well, and although I have had > to use windoze for work, I'm not even slightly persuaded to return. By > the way I've also posted some details of how I managed to configure > wireless router and networkmanager to work. But as I'm a moron it's > probably of no use to you. > > cpp4ever I'm sorry for the moron crack, it was totally uncalled for. I guess it takes one to know one. This network thing has me totally whacked! I appreciate the tip of using a static IP, I'm about to give it a try. OK, I'M THE MORON I started the laptop, the network was off (as usual). I poked the nm-applet and turned on the wireless. IT WORKED ! I've tried this at least 20 times before and it never worked, now it worked fine. Maybe it had something to do with removing NetworkManager and then reinstalling it. I don't really have a clue. Thanks to everyone who offered help. John -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines