The gOS kiddie linux ( yes, I know I'm gonna get hell for that ) based on ubuntu 8.4 which was installed on my mother's laptop, gagged on some update which came in and crashed the x-server. I was already fed up about listening to complaints about poor performance, pidgin certificate error messages with her MSN account, and other issues. I decided it was time to try Fedora again. Previously no fedora releases would work on her crappy acer notebook because of the obscure SIS graphics chipset. gOS, now defunct, did work and seemed perfect for a 73 year old granny who just got her first computer and was too paranoid to use windows for online banking ( sometimes reading "internet for dummies" is NOT a good thing. :-) I downloaded the 32-bit Fedora 15 XFCE live cd, ran it, noticed there were no oscillating yellow lines going down the LCD screen and installed to hard drive. There is a God! My 75 year old mother loves it! She keep IM'ing thank yous. It was 100% compatible with her SIS craphics, the wifi strength is now well into the 90% range instead of the 60% range, and pidgin is the latest version ( I couldn't get it updated on that 3 year old gOS instllation ). She raves about the ease of use. She raves about how she prefers the fonts. She is stunned by the speed, and positively loves the layout. I let her take a look at gnome 3 on my computer and she went "how cool." In any case, she was right. I downloaded the XFCE 64-bit live CD and installed to my notebook. It is very decent indeed. I just wanted to post something other than "doom&gloom" for a change. ;-) GW -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines