Tim wrote: > On Thu, 2011-06-16 at 22:19 +0200, Timothy Murphy sent: >> I think I got this wrong too. >> I am running shorewall on my server, >> and I forgot to turn iptables off. > > Whenever I see mentions of "turning firewall off," that's a red flag, to > me. Is shorewall an independent thing, or is it a configurator for > iptables? Had turning off iptables turned off your firewall, or has it > handed control of it over to something else? It handed control over to shorewall. The probability of my making a mistake while configuring iptables is at least a hundred times higher than the probability that Tom Eastep (who wrote and runs shorewall) made a mistake in setting it up. >> I see now I can go to Manage Connections in NM, >> and specify the name servers. >> Now NM seems to leave /etc/resolv.conf alone. >> Previously I was just adding the nameservers by hand. > > Adding them to what, though? That file? To /etc/resolv.conf . I'm probably in a minority of 1, but I don't think applications should edit config files without telling you. >>>> Changes to the routing table on the latter, eg changing the default >>>> gateway, do not seem to come into force until I re-boot. > >>> How are you trying to bring about the gateway change? Are you bringing >>> its interface down and back up again, to force a configuration reload? No, I didn't. But that wasn't necessary on Fedora; the change comes into force as soon as the route command is given. >> I'm never quite sure if we are allowed to use the network service. > > Your organisation won't let you, or do you mean technical > considerations? I was being slightly impish, and referring to the rulers of Fedora. As far as I can see, NM has become a standard part of Fedora, and the network service seems to be withering away. I never know if programs like system-config-network will assume that you are running NM. I don't particularly mind; NM and network used to be equally bad, in my experience, but NM has steadily improved and now is quite reliable. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
