On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 12:06:55 -0500, Steven Stern wrote: [...] > Alt-F2, type "gnome-terminal". Hey, there's a neat trick! And it works in other distros, too! I never knew that. It'd've gotten me out of lots of tight places if I had. It reminds me of Kafka's Landarzt: "Man weiss nicht, was man im eigenen Hause vorr"atig hat." > You may want to add it to the dock. Errr... Duhhh... Whassa dock? I'm on dry land. Seriously, I'll guess you mean something like what's at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dock_(computing) -- which I'd call a pretty sad excuse for a workspace switcher. I'd ask how to add to it, but that I don't see any such thing on my laptop. So much of the screen, and so many of the whoosama-whatchits that come and go, are all deep black, though, that I can't swear it isn't there. Is there a way to make the login screen take you to a version with practical colors? > Ain't no main menu in Gnome 3 -- Just an applications heap. Really? Like those gawdawful Windows desktops, that Lesser Breeds Without the Linux (LBWL) suffer under, the ones cluttered all over with things neither sweet nor violet? (The otherwise excellent Puppy Linux gets no space on my machines, just because it panders to that distressing habit.) Such a heap (if I ever even get to it!) may stop me right there. O tempora. o mores! > If you install, I strongly suggest avant-windows-navigator. Again I'll guess: something like what I see at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avant_Window_Navigator -- n'est-ce pas? What a sad comedown from an eminently useful workspace switcher on a panel -- which has the great if underrated virtue that I can give it enough spaces to keep several normally empty. That helps to separate my routine apps, so that I don't have to hunt them; my fingers take me there, without requiring conscious attention (which would distract me miserably from whatever I'm doing). There seem to be several of us on this list who make it a sine qua non. We may end up with Lxde, or Xfce, or even <gasp!> KDE 4, which does have something like a workspace switcher. I can also appropriate certain of the workspace aswitcher's empty spaces for nonce apps at such times as I have a use for one. But I bet there are no strategic spaces in the heap, nor any way to introduce them. Or are there? However that may be, between those wikipedia sites and others too fierce to describe that they link to (such as "compositing," of which I had remained blissfully innocent), you've certainly handed me a truly bodacious bunch of clues. I thank you kindly for that. [The senectoflatulocrat trudges despondently off stage left, craving beer] -- Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines