I was seeing some very slow boot times, probably self inflicted, until I re-installed F-15 after which it worked quite nicely. Until I disabled network manager and set up a non-dhcp network with system-config-network. Then I could connect to the internet by clicking on "Activate" and the browser and e-mail functions worked but there was no connection to the LAN. Ethtool reported there was no device. I then did: cp /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-p2p1 /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth1 and rebooted and eth1 came back on and I had access to my NFS, etc. However the boot routine now stops at "Start LSB: The cups scheduler" and sm-client, 60 seconds at each one which makes for a long boot time. Normally that's only done once a day so it's mostly an annoyance but I would like to fix it so it works right. That or I guess there's really no reason I can't live with network manager. It's just that I don't need it, these computers are all "desk top" computers firmly rooted to my desks and tethered to the 60 cycle main. I guess what I'm looking for is advice, should I just turn up network manager again or keep hoping that a solution comes along? Bob. -- -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines