On Tue, 31 May 2011 01:18:47 +0200, Christoph Wickert wrote: > Am Montag, den 30.05.2011, 09:11 +0100 schrieb n2xssvv.g02gfr12930: >> To anyone trying to upgrade from Fedora 14 to Fedora 15, DON'T EVEN >> TRY!!! > > After reading this thread I still don't know what exactly you did to > upgrade your system. Can you please give us more details ? What commands > did you run and what repos were enabled? > > This is what I did yesterday: > > # rpm -Uvh \ > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/15/Fedora/ x86_64/os/Packages/fedora-release-15-1.noarch.rpm > \ > http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/15/Fedora/ x86_64/os/Packages/fedora-release-rawhide-15-1.noarch.rpm > # yum clean all > # yum update yum > # yum --releasever=15 distro-sync > # reboot See, that's my problem in all of this. I still have no clear idea how the original poster attempted to update from Fedora 14 to Fedora 15. There seem to be at least two paths to do this (without a complete reinstall). The first is to use the preupgrade path. A link to this can be found here: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PreUpgrade The second is the one outlined in the message above. Both have been reported to work well for various users. What I would have liked to see from the original poster is the following: Following the steps outlined in the PreUpgrade link, I did the following: 1. (command) Expected results Actual results 2. (command) Expected results Actual results n. (command) Expected results Actual results (failure description) Then, it would be nice to have seen the same sort of format followed for problem diagnosis and fix attempts. The above (plus hardware particulars) would have given everyone a good chance to evaluate whether or not an upgrade or a fresh install is appropriate. I've personally done some rather crazy things with preupgrade, including skipping versions. Outside of some pulse audio and font rendering issues, I've not been bit. The pulse audio problem was a bit difficult to fix, but now I have a working configuration (and the configuration files in version control). After playing around with a personal .fonts.conf, I've managed to get everything looking nice except for 12 point Courier in Emacs. 14 point Courier looks fine, so I'll live with that for now. My real problem in moving from Fedora 14 to Fedora 15 stems from running the binary NVidia driver for an old 7600 GS card. According to numerous reports on the NVidia forums, this could result in lockups due to issues with xorg 1.10. Also, without patched Cairo libraries, themes that use gradients perform unusably slowly with the later NVidia drivers. So I guess in order for me to upgrade, I have to answer the following questions: 1. Has Fedora patched the Xorg server to not do a recursive call to the underlying video drivers? If not, then I will have to wait until NVidia fixes their drivers (again). An alternate solution is to downgrade to the last version of Xorg 1.9.5 (if possible). I'm sorry that I cannot be more explicit here, but the details are scarce on the NVidia forums. 2. Has the gradient patch been removed from Cairo 1.10-3? I know that the original plan was to do this for Fedora 15, but I could find no mention of it after glancing at the change logs. If so, then I'll have to either re-apply the patch for the gradients or wait until NVidia fixes their drivers (again). These are the challenges I face in upgrading. If the original poster had been this explicit, I could have determined which of the following do to. 1. Back up and do a fresh install of Fedora 15 2. Use preupgrade to go from Fedora 14 to Fedora 15 3. Wait until my issues are answered, then move to Fedora 15 4. Skip Fedora 15 and wait until Fedora 16 However, the all-caps WARNING! just provides anecdotal information concerning one person's challenges. While I'm sympathetic to this person's frustrations, I have no idea whether these challenges are germane to my environment or not. . . . . just my two cents. /mde/ -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
