On 30/05/11 20:46, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 05/30/2011 12:28 PM, n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: >> Easy for you to say when you don't have the problem, and I wish you >> never have a similar problem. Then I'd be interested to see your >> response. In the meant time please see my other posts. > > I've had problems with upgrades, installations and updates a few times. > Each time I did, I started out with the presumption that the trouble > was at my end, and not a system-wide failure of the distro in question. > Not once was I forced to change that assumption. And, because I > didn't start out by channeling Chicken Little, I was able to get all the > help I needed in a prompt and timely manor. HTH, HAND. Well, I could say the same, but this problem is an order of magnitude more complicated than anything I have experienced using Fedora in 8+ years, is that chicken little?. Although some of the other responses have made clear that some important underlying changes have been made Fedora 14 -> 15, and any one of these could be the cause of my problem. Therefore I cautiously recommend a fresh install of Fedora 15, rather than trying a yum update, (which was my original warning), and this makes updating my laptop a much more time consuming process. Your name calling, whether it be Chicken Little, Hysteria, or whatever, certainly doesn't help, or inspire confidence. Especially as you may well find yourself with a similar order of magnitude type problem, and face similar responses. cpp4ever -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines