On Monday, May 30, 2011 04:11:26 n2xssvv.g02gfr12930 wrote: > > To anyone trying to upgrade from Fedora 14 to Fedora 15, DON'T EVEN > TRY!!! I've just tried and have had numerous problems, finally > resulting in being unable to boot up any kernel version at all, > using inittab mode 1,3, or 5. In view of this it appears I will have > to reinstall Fedora 14. While, in one instance, I had problems, I wouldn't recommend not even trying. F15 is a stable good release for me on two machines. Here's my experience on two systems: At work, I did the preupgrade thing and it was a big yawn. All went well and everything Just Works(tm). At home, I used the DVD to upgrade. I had several problems, but I was able to recover from all of them: 1. I was not asked to include the updates repository during the update process. Now I will have to do an update after first boot. 2. This is apparently a general problem not really related to the specific upgrade. I noticed that the upgrade process was slow. The disk just churned forever. After booting for the first time, I ran yum erase on my debuginfos so that the subsequent yum update would not pull those in. This erase command took way too long. I think the rpm database gets into a state that needs attention. This fixed it: sudo rm -f /var/lib/rpm/__db.001 /var/lib/rpm/__db.002 \ /var/lib/rpm/__db.003 /var/lib/rpm/__db.004 sudo rpm --rebuilddb After that, yum operations sped up an order of magnitude. 3. The first boot ended at multiuser.target instead of graphical.target. (That's init level 3 instead of level 5 in oldspeak.) I have never touched the inittab on either machine. They were both set to boot into the graphical login. When I entered the command sudo systemctl isolate graphical.target kdm came up and allowed a normal desktop login. Hmmm. I compared my machine at work to the home machine and it had the correct graphical.target file linked in /etc/systemd/system . So I had to do this to correct the problem: sudo rm /etc/systemd/system/default.target sudo ln -s /lib/systemd/system/runlevel5.target \ /etc/systemd/system/default.target I don't know why this happened with the DVD upgrade and not with the preupgrade upgrade. 4. I then did a yum update and waited a few hours while over 500 packages were downloaded and updated/installed. This was almost 1GB of downloads. Most packages did not have delta rpms. 5. I run KDE and after logging in and starting Kmail, it refused to start, complaining about akonadi not being available: Test 5: ERROR ... InnoDB: Unable to lock ./ibdata1, error: 11 InnoDB: Check that you do not already have another mysqld process InnoDB: using the same InnoDB data or log files. <repeated many times> Test 10: ERROR ... Akonadi control process not registered at D-Bus. Test 15: ERROR ... No resource agents found. (Wow, this is a fragile piece in kdepim.) The fix for this ended up being: sudo yum --enablerepo=kde-testing update Only Kmail users will experience this one and once the fixed packages are in updates, it won't happen at all. 6. There was no system log after the upgrade. That one was fixed with this: sudo systemctl enable rsyslog.service Now the home system is operating as expected and all looks good. Based on my reading over the past several weeks, I think others have already encountered most of this stuff. Summary ------- Serious system problems were 3 and 6 above. These were surprises. Both were trivial to recover from. The rest was irritating only. Thank you for another excellent Fedora release. -- Garry Williams -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines