On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Rahul Sundaram <metherid@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 05/26/2011 02:46 AM, Kam Leo wrote: >> After reading the bug report I can only shake my head. >> >> 1. The problem was known at least a month before the release date. > > Yes. As noted in the bug report, a change in the installer and related > components are going in for Fedora 16 but the amount of change was > considered too disruptive by the installer team to risk pushing in a > change just a month before release. Note that Fedora 15 development is > already on a code freeze at that time and only important and confined > bug fixes are supposed to be pushed in at that point. This > bug fix won't be confined and requires significant changes in many > components. Those are very risky to push through one month before the > release in a installer. > >> 2. QA feels that they're powerless to flag this problem as a show stopper. > > QA works against a well documented and publicized release criteria that > gets frequent updates via test list > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_15_Final_Release_Criteria Strange that being able to install on a system with minimum hardware requirements is not part of the criteria. Or is it covered in item 5 and the team interprets it differently? > In particular, the installer in Fedora 14 already required more memory > in some cases and this isn't considered a show stopper bug to block the > release as per the release criteria. There is nothing wrong with changing minimum hardware requirements. I just would like Fedora publicize the requirements earlier so I don't waste time on a the release is not compatible with my equipment. >> 3. Release Notes have long lead times and are no longer suitable for >> flagging important last minute changes in system requirements. > > Fedora doesn't rely on only the release notes. There are other places > including the common bugs page which is linked from the release > announcement and other prominent places. > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F15_bugs#Installation_requires_more_memory It seems that the requirements were posted everywhere except the Release Notes and, until today, the home page. > Rahul > > -- > users mailing list > users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe or change subscription options: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users > Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines