On 05/11/11 09:22, Tim wrote: > On Wed, 2011-05-11 at 08:32 -0700, James McKenzie wrote: >> Here is some serious food for thought (and no this is not to induce a >> flame war, but for those who have a problem with companies 'making >> money') > There's a big difference between making money, and being an ass about > it. Though /some/ companies just don't seem to get that... >> Would any of us go to a major computer manufacturing company and >> DEMAND the same thing that we DEMAND of software? That is: Give me >> your latest/greatest for free? > Well, I wish more people would do with computer industries as we expect > of other companies. When you sell me a product, it had better bloody > work properly and safely. If you sell me a dodgy product, you (the > company) have to fix it at your cost. > > Or would you (the customer) like to shoulder the additional burden of > fixing up your *new* car's lousy design having crappy brakes, fuel > injection, seat belts, or anything else? Simply because the > manufacturer doesn't give a damn about the product actually being any > good. > > Microsoft, et al, probably even the entire computer industry, have > justly earned the contempt that they receive. Decades of experience, > billions of dollars, and still a continual cock-up. >> And no, I don't mind that they are going to take it 'propriatary' >> either. They have to do something above and beyond the standard to >> make us want to purchase it. > I do, I mind that a lot. At home, I have one telephone on my desk, and > I can ring anybody on the world with it, no matter what telephone > network that they're on. > > That can't be done with VOIP. There's a plethora of different > completely incompatible systems. Which leaves you either with having to > have a collection of VOIP applications, or arguing with other people to > shovel them all onto the same proprietary system. > > And, no, buying into some proprietary system which offers to act as a > gateway between (some) of them isn't an answer, either. They will not > be a gateway to all of them. What about the other systems that they > don't/won't/can't gateway. And then there's the quality issues involved > in recompressing audio between different schemes. This isn't the 19th > century any more, I want damn good voice quality, where I don't have to > guess at what someone said through the haze. > > We've had a decade of that incompatibility crap with all the different > instant messaging schemes, and people just will not learn how dumb, > stupid, moronic, idiotic, annoying, absolutely brain dead that attitude > is. > +1 -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
