On 05/11/2011 05:19 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > Actually there are, notably SIP. However one is reminded of Andy > Tanenbaum's well-known remark: "The good thing about standards is that > if you don't like one of them, you can just use a different one". And, as somebody else (I don't know who.) pointed out, "Microsoft follows standards like migrating salmon follow caribou." -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines