Having had trouble with F15 media, I told preupgrade on an expendable (heavily backed up) pc to go to F15 beta. It did, eventually, after taking an amazingly long time -- and looks worse, so far, than I had feared. I logged in, and it put me onto what has always been my workspace #1. But there are no panels, let alone a workspace switcher; and right- clicking does nothing anywhere. I have it doing yum update at present, also going through an amazing lot of stuff. Will that enable me to orient myself? Or is this release a total loss already for all but Alpha Plus Technoids? -- Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is. -- users mailing list users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines